fiarra: (rawr!ryuichi ~lestatluva)
Carolina ([personal profile] fiarra) wrote2005-12-04 06:44 pm
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*pensive*

i'd never thought about it before... everyone within them has the potential for utterly destroying others. with words. with actions. with thought.

a single glance. a gesture. it can send a person to the highest peaks or plunge them down into despair and gloom.

it's not something to be proud of. it should be avoided.

yet sometimes it's done... maybe even before you realize what has happened. does that make on a bad person? i wonder...

can one act of selfishness negate every act..every sacrifice for others that you've done in the past?

i wonder..

[identity profile] littlekellylee.livejournal.com 2005-12-05 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
can one act of selfishness negate every act..every sacrifice for others that you've done in the past?

but if you think that way would any act of kindness or sacrifice be worthless because you were selfish once in your past? i know the logic doesn't completely flow, but i guess what i'm trying to say is that yes, people mess up. i was a terrible terrible person when i was a child. you mentioned how a single glance. a gesture. it can send a person to the highest peaks or plunge them down into despair and gloom. i was the girl giving that glance. i used to give dirty looks to a girl in my class for no justifiable reason except that i felt like being mean. i never knew why i started. in fact i never knew how mean my actions really were until one day she finally got the courage to give me a dirty look back. i think it's one thing to do something wrong (whether it be on purpose or by accident). however it's learning from your mistakes and changing in the future that are important. i mean say you've lived your whole life as a blind and ignorant series of selfish actions. can one selfless act negate all of your previous actions if the selfless act came after you realized how wrong you had been in the past? probably not. i think it's impossible to negate things. i think it's much better to try to learn from them.

just my two cents.

[identity profile] starsparkle333.livejournal.com 2005-12-05 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
wow... you know? i think that really helped me. a new spin on the logic...

thanks dear... *hug*

[identity profile] littlekellylee.livejournal.com 2005-12-05 06:25 am (UTC)(link)
glad i could help :) *hug*

[identity profile] quindraco.livejournal.com 2005-12-05 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
I suspect I may be redundant, as littlekellylee is right on the money, so I'll basically be repeating her. But there is no negating. You're not on some set of scales, good deeds vs. bad - if you were, you could do all the evil you wanted, so long as you did mroe good, and call yourself a good person, which would be nonsense - you'd only be doing good to justify the evil.

In less black and white terms.... when you mess up, you take whatever steps you can to rectify the situation, then you learn from your mistake and try not to let it happen again. You keep doing your best to do the right thing, and let everything else work itself out.

Now that I've thrown in my two cents, as well.... on a very similar note, what did you decide as a result of your thinking over break?

[identity profile] starsparkle333.livejournal.com 2005-12-05 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
*hug* thanks rick. clearly i needed a check on what i was thinking. thats why i post here... so i can get it.

as to your question, i suspect a very long post will be coming from me very shortly about what has been going on. things need to be clarified first...

[identity profile] phlipp.livejournal.com 2005-12-05 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yah, to continue the inherent contradiction, it's unclear how the sacrifices you've done for others (particularly not the person in question) have been lessened by the dumb mistake you made. Since the others still value your sacrafices, its clear that this isn't the case.

[identity profile] starsparkle333.livejournal.com 2005-12-05 09:12 am (UTC)(link)
heh... i clearly wasnt thinking logically when i made this post.

thanks for the reality check

[identity profile] quantumzen.livejournal.com 2005-12-05 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
You are speaking in vague generalities that do not accurately apply to the situation. No offense to anyone here, but they do not realize the scope or the depth of what is going on. And in oder to come to any conclusion that's appropriate to your situation Carolina, all that information is necessary before anyone here makes a judgment. But it is not possible to adequately communicate everything that's happened over the past three months online to people who are vaguely aware. No offense to anyone who commented--Phil, Rick, Kelly. I know all three of you. But this web has so many layers to it that it cannot be understood through a medium such as Live Journal. At all.

If you need advice Carolina, or trust somebody's judgment, then trust Steve's. The three of us have been in this together from the beginning. He's been there as a wonderful friend and mentor to both of us in our troubled time, to help us get through our problems. He knows us and our situation better than anyone. At times he even knows it better than we do--how often did Steve know both sides when only one of us knew our own?

But trying to sort this out through Live Journal isn't something I entirely appreciate, and because of the lack of information the audience has, no offense to anyone (including my three friends here), all advice and opinions are suspect. They can't see the full picture. They were not around when the picture was being made. Telling them about the picture is completely different from being there when the picture was made and seeing it for yourself. And that's what is necessary.

[identity profile] phlipp.livejournal.com 2005-12-05 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I just calls 'em how I sees 'em. I was also only commenting on one small part of said issue, as opposed to any larger part (of which, as you guessed I'm not in the know). Regardless we definitly need to play magic again when I visit Uconn next.

[identity profile] fichkids.livejournal.com 2005-12-06 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
I dont have to have been there to know that Carolina is an amazing person and relaize that she would never hurt someone intentionally. People get hurt and that sucks, but if people don't stop attacking her I will be forced to challenge them to a duel. ;-) For real though, I don't know everything, nor do I go so far as to pretend I know even half of what occurred, but in the short time I have known Carolina I have realized that she is a person who goes beyond herself to avoid hurting others. Every hurt you may feel, she feels in triplicate. I hope this situation can eventually come to an if not peaceful, at least less hostile conclusion.

I have been hurt more in my life than many people will ever be. I don't mean to belittle your pain, but never think you are the only one who's ever been hurt.

Live life. And although you may get hurt, learn to look past it, and not further into your pain. If you need someone to talk to, there is always someone willing to listen who is removed from the situation.

Peace. aiight.

[identity profile] quantumzen.livejournal.com 2005-12-06 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I understand, man. No offense intended. You're the man Phil. Magic would be awesome :o)